I have a set of the hard parts, helmet , chest and backpack vintage from the original molds. I want to make up the suit but I'm kind of stuck on which color and what to do the suit out of. I'm kind of partial to these suits as well.
They look like a foam material to me but lets throw it out to the rest of the world. What were they made of? What can SWGhostbuster easily get his hands on to complete the outfit. There must be a wealth of spacesuit knowledge out there. Anyone?
From what I read and seen the "soft" part was a wetsuit with bits added and coated. My main worries is that if I go that route it would deteriorate fairly fast From what I also heard it was really smelly like vomit. I was thinking of running it by a seamstress I know to see if she could do a suit out of a nice fabric. The hard parts of Kirks suit sold back in 2007-2009 along with the soft parts of the screen used suit. I'm guessing the real soft parts deteriorated years ago and the cloth second suit was still fresh as day one. I also have a few of the other costumes used in STTMP , mainly one of the docking bay workers which was meant to be a zero atmosphere suit and a engineering emergency radiation suit (orange) . Cool stuff indeed.
Well the movie runs a little long 131 mins without the scenes. They were in a real rush to get the film out on time and even some scenes are missing effects shots and have hard cuts. From what I've read and seen in the documentaries they just had to make it fit the run time. Going back to what is known STTMP started out as Star Trek Phase II the second five year voyage of the Starship Enterprise as a tv series. Sets were built, models, props and costumes made, stories written some lighting tests .... and then Star Wars hit and the powers that be decided that a motion picture was in order and brought in Robert Wise. The Pilot episode In Thine Own Image was retooled for Star Trek The Motion Picture. Most of the original cast was not intended to return to Phase II but were brought back for the movie Leonard Nimoy was the last to join in. Most of the models, costumes and props were trashed and the sets were refurbished, I also own one of the Phase II wrist communicators. This suit was made for Phase II and I'm guessing that they reluctantly used it and then decided to drop that whole sequence which was already shot. The new suits were probably made to get rid of that smell. From what I've heard there was even more to the movie that just didn't get finished. There's a couple different versions of the movie out there. One version shows Kirk getting suited up to go after Spock in this style suit and then him coming out of an incomplete airlock shot.There's also a lot more interaction with Decker and Ilea. The whole Memory Wall scenes ( pictures up there) would have been about 10-15 mins more.
It makes you wonder what the phase 2 tv series would have been like had they only started work on it a little sooner but then star wars changed everything.I`d love to see the footage from the memory wall sequence it seems like a far more involved scene than the one they finally went with,its the sort of thing that cries out for a directors cut edition,sadly its probably lost to us apart from these pics,but then again you never know what could be laying forgotten in a film vault somewhere after all look at what happened with metropolis,I still live in hope that the missing logans run scenes will be found some day
Well they did come out with a Director's cut and they cut a lot out, finished effects, replaced sounds and music. Finally they put out the original cut on Bluray last year .
Errmm, that link I just posted appears...drably inactive, as it were, but TRUST ME, `tis quite worth it to methodically copy&paste~ it ~ OR EVEN MANUALLY RETYPE IT IN FULL into 1’s browser & then...behold,,, definitely!!...
Upwardly whimsical Trekkie John Carl Mann(, of no affiliations w/that so laudably tenacious UK onliner “Alchemist”, mind u,) here wit’ 1 major STTMP exclusive @ u all!!: https://plus.google.com/106622946545554571964/posts/Jvfbqt6tU29
I have a set of the hard parts, helmet , chest and backpack vintage from the original molds. I want to make up the suit but I'm kind of stuck on which color and what to do the suit out of. I'm kind of partial to these suits as well.
ReplyDeleteThey look like a foam material to me but lets throw it out to the rest of the world. What were they made of? What can SWGhostbuster easily get his hands on to complete the outfit. There must be a wealth of spacesuit knowledge out there. Anyone?
DeleteFrom what I read and seen the "soft" part was a wetsuit with bits added and coated. My main worries is that if I go that route it would deteriorate fairly fast From what I also heard it was really smelly like vomit. I was thinking of running it by a seamstress I know to see if she could do a suit out of a nice fabric.
ReplyDeleteThe hard parts of Kirks suit sold back in 2007-2009 along with the soft parts of the screen used suit. I'm guessing the real soft parts deteriorated years ago and the cloth second suit was still fresh as day one. I also have a few of the other costumes used in STTMP , mainly one of the docking bay workers which was meant to be a zero atmosphere suit and a engineering emergency radiation suit (orange) . Cool stuff indeed.
Do you have any info on why they not only scrapped the scene but even the suits as well
DeleteWell the movie runs a little long 131 mins without the scenes. They were in a real rush to get the film out on time and even some scenes are missing effects shots and have hard cuts. From what I've read and seen in the documentaries they just had to make it fit the run time.
ReplyDeleteGoing back to what is known STTMP started out as Star Trek Phase II the second five year voyage of the Starship Enterprise as a tv series. Sets were built, models, props and costumes made, stories written some lighting tests .... and then Star Wars hit and the powers that be decided that a motion picture was in order and brought in Robert Wise. The Pilot episode In Thine Own Image was retooled for Star Trek The Motion Picture. Most of the original cast was not intended to return to Phase II but were brought back for the movie Leonard Nimoy was the last to join in. Most of the models, costumes and props were trashed and the sets were refurbished, I also own one of the Phase II wrist communicators. This suit was made for Phase II and I'm guessing that they reluctantly used it and then decided to drop that whole sequence which was already shot. The new suits were probably made to get rid of that smell. From what I've heard there was even more to the movie that just didn't get finished. There's a couple different versions of the movie out there. One version shows Kirk getting suited up to go after Spock in this style suit and then him coming out of an incomplete airlock shot.There's also a lot more interaction with Decker and Ilea. The whole Memory Wall scenes ( pictures up there) would have been about 10-15 mins more.
It makes you wonder what the phase 2 tv series would have been like had they only started work on it a little sooner but then star wars changed everything.I`d love to see the footage from the memory wall sequence it seems like a far more involved scene than the one they finally went with,its the sort of thing that cries out for a directors cut edition,sadly its probably lost to us apart from these pics,but then again you never know what could be laying forgotten in a film vault somewhere after all look at what happened with metropolis,I still live in hope that the missing logans run scenes will be found some day
ReplyDeleteWell they did come out with a Director's cut and they cut a lot out, finished effects, replaced sounds and music. Finally they put out the original cut on Bluray last year .
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ReplyDeleteErrmm, that link I just posted appears...drably inactive, as it were, but TRUST ME, `tis quite worth it to methodically copy&paste~ it ~ OR EVEN MANUALLY RETYPE IT IN FULL into 1’s browser & then...behold,,, definitely!!...
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ReplyDeleteUpwardly whimsical Trekkie John Carl Mann(, of no affiliations w/that so laudably tenacious UK onliner “Alchemist”, mind u,) here wit’ 1 major STTMP exclusive @ u all!!: https://plus.google.com/106622946545554571964/posts/Jvfbqt6tU29
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